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	<title>Comments on: Oprah, Tal Ronnen &amp; Gardein, oh my!</title>
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	<description>The culinary adventures of a vegan in Los Angeles and beyond.</description>
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		<title>By: Katherine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Katherine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Nov 2009 01:21:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I absolutely agree with you, FoodEater. I think we do a disservice to the animals when we insist that vegan food has to be low-fat. Vegan food has become popular in recent years precisely because people have started shifting away from that old stereotype.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I absolutely agree with you, FoodEater. I think we do a disservice to the animals when we insist that vegan food has to be low-fat. Vegan food has become popular in recent years precisely because people have started shifting away from that old stereotype.</p>
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		<title>By: Maria</title>
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		<dc:creator>Maria</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2009 20:53:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, I almost came when he added the Earth Balance to that sauce! ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, I almost came when he added the Earth Balance to that sauce! ;-)</p>
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		<title>By: FoodEater</title>
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		<dc:creator>FoodEater</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2009 20:22:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;Mark:&lt;/b&gt; This isn&#039;t a low fat / no fat blog. I love fried food and I love (vegan) butter. I don&#039;t feel it&#039;s any chefs responsibility to cook low fat, vegan or otherwise, if that&#039;s not the sort of food they want to cook. It&#039;s not a health food cookbook and it&#039;s not a low fat cookbook so I don&#039;t see the point in attempting to compare it to some standard that does not apply.

It&#039;s called a butter sauce... I&#039;m not sure what part of that would lead anyone to think that it wouldn&#039;t have a lot of fat. If you want to eat low fat, health food- go for it! But to complain that a butter based recipe has too much fat or that a chef is required to cook a certain way to meet your standards is just silly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>Mark:</b> This isn&#8217;t a low fat / no fat blog. I love fried food and I love (vegan) butter. I don&#8217;t feel it&#8217;s any chefs responsibility to cook low fat, vegan or otherwise, if that&#8217;s not the sort of food they want to cook. It&#8217;s not a health food cookbook and it&#8217;s not a low fat cookbook so I don&#8217;t see the point in attempting to compare it to some standard that does not apply.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s called a butter sauce&#8230; I&#8217;m not sure what part of that would lead anyone to think that it wouldn&#8217;t have a lot of fat. If you want to eat low fat, health food- go for it! But to complain that a butter based recipe has too much fat or that a chef is required to cook a certain way to meet your standards is just silly.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2009 10:04:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tal&#039;s Scallopini receipe has about as much fat in it as deep-frying butter.

I did the numbers and it&#039;s roughly half a day&#039;s worth of fat per serving (using the American Heart Association&#039;s recommendations).

But then, I wouldn&#039;t expect less from a &quot;healthy chef&quot; who maintains that &quot;fat is flavor.&quot;

It&#039;s not a &quot;bit of oil&quot; in that recipe.  It&#039;s 30 grams of added fat per serving.  I didn&#039;t bother adding up the &quot;saturated fat&quot; (which is even worse for your cardiovascular system).

Love your blog, but not Tal&#039;s heart-abusive unconscious from a health standpoint approach to cooking.

Anyone can sub out a chunk of meat with a vegan analog, but to fry the hell outta it, then slather oil over the fried udon noodle cake is hardly creative (or advisable).  It&#039;s been well-documented (and measured) that one high fat meal affects the elasticity of your blood vessels for 6+ hrs.  Is consuming a half day&#039;s worth of fat with ONE entree really a good idea?

Something, IMHO, to consider.  I think we should hold vegan chefs to a higher standard than &quot;oh, how wonderful, he&#039;s not using meat and non-vegans are buying his book.&quot;  This chef caters to the unhealthy taste addiction many have to fat, and is oblivous to the consequences.

This is the only comment about your post I&#039;ll do here. 

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tal&#8217;s Scallopini receipe has about as much fat in it as deep-frying butter.</p>
<p>I did the numbers and it&#8217;s roughly half a day&#8217;s worth of fat per serving (using the American Heart Association&#8217;s recommendations).</p>
<p>But then, I wouldn&#8217;t expect less from a &#8220;healthy chef&#8221; who maintains that &#8220;fat is flavor.&#8221;</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not a &#8220;bit of oil&#8221; in that recipe.  It&#8217;s 30 grams of added fat per serving.  I didn&#8217;t bother adding up the &#8220;saturated fat&#8221; (which is even worse for your cardiovascular system).</p>
<p>Love your blog, but not Tal&#8217;s heart-abusive unconscious from a health standpoint approach to cooking.</p>
<p>Anyone can sub out a chunk of meat with a vegan analog, but to fry the hell outta it, then slather oil over the fried udon noodle cake is hardly creative (or advisable).  It&#8217;s been well-documented (and measured) that one high fat meal affects the elasticity of your blood vessels for 6+ hrs.  Is consuming a half day&#8217;s worth of fat with ONE entree really a good idea?</p>
<p>Something, IMHO, to consider.  I think we should hold vegan chefs to a higher standard than &#8220;oh, how wonderful, he&#8217;s not using meat and non-vegans are buying his book.&#8221;  This chef caters to the unhealthy taste addiction many have to fat, and is oblivous to the consequences.</p>
<p>This is the only comment about your post I&#8217;ll do here. </p>
<p>FYI, Mark</p>
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		<title>By: The Voracious Vegan</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Voracious Vegan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2009 04:54:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>WOW! All of those gardein products look SO amazing! Unfortunately they don&#039;t carry them here in Saudi Arabia, but when I make it back to the states I will be buying stacks of these asap. Especially those hot wings.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WOW! All of those gardein products look SO amazing! Unfortunately they don&#8217;t carry them here in Saudi Arabia, but when I make it back to the states I will be buying stacks of these asap. Especially those hot wings.</p>
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